Comments on: OS X Leopard: Was it Worth the Wait… and the Bugs? http://isource.com/2007/12/20/leopard-was-it-worth-the-wait-and-the-bugs/ #1 Source for iPad, iPhone, iPod, Mac and AppleTV Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:12:34 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.4.6 By: Darren Kelly http://isource.com/2007/12/20/leopard-was-it-worth-the-wait-and-the-bugs/#comment-29136 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:12:34 +0000 http://www.mactropolis.com/leopard-os/leopard-was-it-worth-the-wait-and-the-bugs/#comment-29136 I bought a shiny new Mac OS-X Leopard MacBook Pro out of the box from MyMac Australia. While I really enjoy mostly working on this machine, I have found bug after bug after bug. And I am not imagining it.
(To those people who have not found any bugs it is like claiming there are no cows because you have never visited a farm).

The worst applications are:
– iCal: very buggy, crashes/freezes often, and just took one week of diary entries from my work with it. Can’t be used for professional timesheeting, and sometimes even jumps to random days. BUGGY !

– iMovie: unstable, crashes, and freezes. I moved to Final Cut Express anyway.

– I have suffered the infamous “no wake on sleep” problem too much already. It tooks days of research (which means money) to find various workarounds, and I found them out from users, not from Apple.

– System Monitor: can somebody please explain how processes
can systematically take more than 100% of the CPU ?

While I am very supportive of Apple, don’t believe the hype. I spent a LOT of money on this machine and expected better in terms of stability. It has cost me almost as much time=money dealing with bugs as it did to buy the machine.

It is however easily better than than OpenSuse10.2 for Linux,
which was my main working OS until I moved to the MacBook Pro.

]]> By: Raymond J. Heemsta http://isource.com/2007/12/20/leopard-was-it-worth-the-wait-and-the-bugs/#comment-29135 Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:23:49 +0000 http://www.mactropolis.com/leopard-os/leopard-was-it-worth-the-wait-and-the-bugs/#comment-29135 Have Tiger, 10.4.11, on a PowerMac Tower Dual 2.0 MHz with 2.5 GB of memory and 500 GB external LaCie d2. I was just ready to push the install button of Leopard with a 10.5.3 update already downloaded, when I came across these horror stories. Do the people who have absolutely no trouble have the Intel chips inside and the people with problems have the PowerMac? I may just install on the external first and check things out. I had Panther standing by on an 80 GB external when I archive installed Tiger. Had to put new drivers in for Epson plotter & scanner.

]]> By: Tony Maxwell http://isource.com/2007/12/20/leopard-was-it-worth-the-wait-and-the-bugs/#comment-29134 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:54:36 +0000 http://www.mactropolis.com/leopard-os/leopard-was-it-worth-the-wait-and-the-bugs/#comment-29134 I’ve had an appalling number of problems since upgrading to Leopard – on three different computers (2 MacBooks and a brand new Mac Pro). In over 20 years as a Mac user, I’ve never seen anything as pathetic as this. From ordinary hangs causing horrible disk damage to constant crashes of Apple’s own applications – this has been a complete joke. There are rumblings about basic file system problems, and I can believe them. If Apple had to muck around with the file system to create the “Time Machine” marketing gimmick, it’s a good thing they at least created that piece of garish graphic design – because Leopard crashes so often and so disastrously, you need constant backups just to recover from all the crashes. Way to go, Apple.

]]> By: JOHN CARDEN http://isource.com/2007/12/20/leopard-was-it-worth-the-wait-and-the-bugs/#comment-29133 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:41:53 +0000 http://www.mactropolis.com/leopard-os/leopard-was-it-worth-the-wait-and-the-bugs/#comment-29133 Hi,
I got sick of PC’s after 20 years of using them, viruses, crashing and just generally seizing up with rubbish after about a year of use. I bought a 24″ iMac duo core etc etc. It looks BEAUTIFUL….and no doubt about that.
And there the love affair ends. I’ve had this monstrosity about 2 weeks now and I’ve NEVER had as much bother with any PC ever. It has cost me a fortune in new software, new leads to make my parallel port plotter and colour laserjets work. It is running Leopard and it CONSTANTLY slows down to a grinding halt. I’ve been onto Apple support, I’ve re-installed Leopard twice, I’ve ran hardware diagnostics and have installed Onyx to clean stuff up. It is a nightmare. Even to the point where with only a few apps running, when typing an e-mail the cursor just stops moving, then catches up a few seconds later.
A friend (PC user) when I told him I was going to try a Mac suggested I go back to Tiger as many forums he looked at said they were having terrible probs with Leopard. I’ve just installed Tiger and have installed Parallel and some other windows software. It seems to be working okay-ish (not blowing my socks off by any means) but if it starts going slow again over today and tomorrow then it’s all going back in the box and back to PC World. THANK GOD I took a “take it now and don’t pay anything until next Sept”!
I can get a blistering PC for about £350 and a monster screen for say £200.
I’m desperately hoping that this Mac will work, but right now………..I couldn’t recommend Mac to anyone.

]]> By: zenpao http://isource.com/2007/12/20/leopard-was-it-worth-the-wait-and-the-bugs/#comment-29132 Wed, 26 Dec 2007 07:17:31 +0000 http://www.mactropolis.com/leopard-os/leopard-was-it-worth-the-wait-and-the-bugs/#comment-29132 I am so disappointed with apple, after I installed leopard in my 2 computers, I had so many crushes and bugs, that i cant even count.
Latest today
1 the computer is unable to restart; the message “the application spotlight quit unexpectedly”
I feel tricked by the all Apple noise machine that got me into switching, i might just crush everything with a hammer, film it and post it on utube for the fun!!

]]> By: mat!-) http://isource.com/2007/12/20/leopard-was-it-worth-the-wait-and-the-bugs/#comment-29131 Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:19:53 +0000 http://www.mactropolis.com/leopard-os/leopard-was-it-worth-the-wait-and-the-bugs/#comment-29131 Hey there! Had the same annoying issues with Leopard- and the same regrets- but going back really is a hard thing to do- the Leopard desktop is a really responsive thing after You reached it…new finder, quicklook, the new ical especially are absolutely indispensible!

Problem was I only installed Leopard over Tiger… this really works amazingly fine but errors, failures to log in, crashes really pile up and leave a bad taste in one’s mouth…

My solution was: backup the boot drive with time machine to external, run the installer, perform a absolutely clean install (not the archive option, You have Your time machine from which You can restore essential system prefs upon new installation), run the update to 10.5.1 and Your mac is stable again! Or- at least- with me!

cheers, mat!-)

]]> By: jkubie http://isource.com/2007/12/20/leopard-was-it-worth-the-wait-and-the-bugs/#comment-29130 Fri, 21 Dec 2007 12:16:46 +0000 http://www.mactropolis.com/leopard-os/leopard-was-it-worth-the-wait-and-the-bugs/#comment-29130 No problems here. I work with 6 others, none with significant issues. I’m sure that there are users who have had painful upgrades. But, when I hear comments from these people that Apple or Stevie lost it, they appear to live in an egocentric universe. Yes, they have been hit. But, if I recall, there have been casualties with each X.dot upgrade. When and if it hits you, it is catastrophic, for you. But take a look around before you decide that the world has stopped spinning.

]]> By: Richard Dalziel-Sharpe http://isource.com/2007/12/20/leopard-was-it-worth-the-wait-and-the-bugs/#comment-29129 Fri, 21 Dec 2007 07:24:07 +0000 http://www.mactropolis.com/leopard-os/leopard-was-it-worth-the-wait-and-the-bugs/#comment-29129 I am another one of those who sadly have to report that I have had absolutely no problems with Leopard.
I love Spaces, I have the dock on the left hand side, but I still like the look of the bottom version. I don’t use Stacks but have them open in the window view. Quick look is the one of the biggest advances in ui design of late and I can see it developing into a real Swiss Army knife, with say the adding of a print command for documents like the ability to play movies at present. Time Machine has already saved my skin a couple of times in ways that a backup may not have been able to.
All in all a great advance for Mac users.

]]> By: Christopher Fenger http://isource.com/2007/12/20/leopard-was-it-worth-the-wait-and-the-bugs/#comment-29128 Fri, 21 Dec 2007 02:26:03 +0000 http://www.mactropolis.com/leopard-os/leopard-was-it-worth-the-wait-and-the-bugs/#comment-29128 While there is anecdotal evidence that 10.5 gave many system configurations problems, there is also evidence that the majority of users have had no significant issues with ther install of Leopard. Count me among them. And, FWIW, none of the dozen or so users I know personally have had a problem with their upgrades.

I can’t help but question responders like Mr. Dandyk (4th comment) who claim to have “lost a lot of respect for old Stevie” and use words like “hubris” and “darkside” as if they applied in this instance. Also, if you “live by” Discwarrior, Fruitmenu and SuperDuper, you clearly spend far too much time fixing hard drive directories, customizing your Apple menu, and cloning your OS. I have all three of these programs, by the way, and not using them has had no impact on my ability to immediately use the programs that I live by: PhotoShop, Illustrator, InDesign, Acrobat, Flash, Dreamweaver, BBEdit, MS Office 2004, Graphic Converter, Aperture. Toast, Phone Valet, Omnigraffle, Amadeus Pro, and dozens more. I’ll be happy to have Fruitmenu (and Windowshade) back and Discwarrior fully Leopard compatible, but they’ve both been historically slow to upgrade after each major OS revision.

]]> By: peter dandyk http://isource.com/2007/12/20/leopard-was-it-worth-the-wait-and-the-bugs/#comment-29127 Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:28:03 +0000 http://www.mactropolis.com/leopard-os/leopard-was-it-worth-the-wait-and-the-bugs/#comment-29127 I am extremely disappointed and can only agree with your notion that Apple released a BETA and the first fix did little to improve it! My archive and install deleted my files – fortunately I ALWAYS back up – and I ended up with a ‘clean’ ( and I use that term loosely ) install that should have worked flawlessly. This is the worst release since the original OS X came out.
I expected some of my apps to be an issue, but most don’t work, or don’t work well in Leopard. Fortunately a lot of developers have been quick to upgrade but many still have not – Discwarrior, Unsanity, SuperDuper – to name a few key apps I live by.
10.5.2 can’t come soon enough but somehow I’ve lost a lot of respect for old Stevie. Hubris leads to acting more like the DARK SIDE.
Incidentally, after several weeks of flaky operation I tried the archive & install again!! Same result. Although I could boot from my backup & see the ‘previous system’, Leopard insisted on another ‘clean’ install. I reloaded the backup from the Carbon Copy Clone and am forced to deal with ‘flaky’ behavior as the norm under 10.5.1.

]]> By: MoBurkhardt http://isource.com/2007/12/20/leopard-was-it-worth-the-wait-and-the-bugs/#comment-29126 Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:02:42 +0000 http://www.mactropolis.com/leopard-os/leopard-was-it-worth-the-wait-and-the-bugs/#comment-29126 I ran leopard back when it was just a developer preview, but I didn’t like the stability then. However changing back to Tiger I started to miss all the nice features I had gotten accustomed to, Quickview, Time Machine, Spaces…
And with the actual release I had some issues with Safari but otherwise the stability was totally acceptable. So I am happy with Leopard.

]]> By: simone http://isource.com/2007/12/20/leopard-was-it-worth-the-wait-and-the-bugs/#comment-29125 Thu, 20 Dec 2007 23:46:58 +0000 http://www.mactropolis.com/leopard-os/leopard-was-it-worth-the-wait-and-the-bugs/#comment-29125 I also have had no problems running Leopard.
Though, I am EXTREMELY aggravated that Adobe is doing nothing to make Photoshop Elements 4.0 run on the new OS. It’s just infuriating that it won’t work! You should write a blog on that topic..

]]> By: Gene Warech http://isource.com/2007/12/20/leopard-was-it-worth-the-wait-and-the-bugs/#comment-29124 Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:38:26 +0000 http://www.mactropolis.com/leopard-os/leopard-was-it-worth-the-wait-and-the-bugs/#comment-29124 I must sadly report that I am one of the hundreds of thousands of Leopard users who have had no bugs.
Sorry, that is my dirty little secret. Don’t tell.

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