Comments on: My Kingdom for a Pimped Out Mac Pro http://isource.com/2008/05/06/my-kingdom-for-a-pimped-out-mac-pro/ #1 Source for iPad, iPhone, iPod, Mac and AppleTV Thu, 30 Dec 2010 18:06:06 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.4.6 By: Tektx http://isource.com/2008/05/06/my-kingdom-for-a-pimped-out-mac-pro/#comment-29571 Wed, 07 May 2008 04:51:46 +0000 http://www.mactropolis.com/?p=468#comment-29571 OWC makes memory to Apples Spec – 4GB around $200 (2x2gb). I upgraded my 1st drive to 500, and purchased second (identical WD model at Fry’s for $99 + tax. I also upgraded to the 8800 with 512mb. That gives me 6GB total memory, 1 TB HDD. I use a couple of 22″ Monitors (viewsonic’s) from Costco for $250 each. I also used the 2.8’s. Probably already more CPU than I need (understatement!), so the 3.0’s were just price pushers with little value. (I also added airport). Bought my Applecare at the CompUsa fire sale for $125.

Overall, awesome computer (just wished it fit into my MBP case!!!). Not the most portable of machines, but I love it, and remote into it from my laptop.

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By: Ru-Dee http://isource.com/2008/05/06/my-kingdom-for-a-pimped-out-mac-pro/#comment-29570 Tue, 06 May 2008 23:11:10 +0000 http://www.mactropolis.com/?p=468#comment-29570 I think what he meant was if he had to buy everything from Apple. Of course it’s going to cost more.

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By: Eytan http://isource.com/2008/05/06/my-kingdom-for-a-pimped-out-mac-pro/#comment-29569 Tue, 06 May 2008 23:06:23 +0000 http://www.mactropolis.com/?p=468#comment-29569 Why do you need the 3.0? Get the 2.8 for 800 less, and lose MAYBE 10% of the processing power. The extra 800 is a waste. RAM and HDs 3rd party – and you can buy refurbished standard config of the 2.8 from apple for 400 less. All of a sudden you are down to the mid 2000s.
Apple loves consumers like you – no research, just impulse “I want it all”

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By: Kal http://isource.com/2008/05/06/my-kingdom-for-a-pimped-out-mac-pro/#comment-29568 Tue, 06 May 2008 18:32:39 +0000 http://www.mactropolis.com/?p=468#comment-29568 Buy it.. it’s only money haha

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By: Mr. Mayor http://isource.com/2008/05/06/my-kingdom-for-a-pimped-out-mac-pro/#comment-29567 Tue, 06 May 2008 17:32:26 +0000 http://www.mactropolis.com/?p=468#comment-29567 Richard,

You’re right, what I’m running now is great. Nothing wrong with it at all… it’s the ‘want’ desire that keeps kicking in. I always find myself looking into Mac Pro prices from time to time. Can’t help myself.

I am working with some very large files from time to time, but the time wasted waiting vs. the purchase of a new system probably does not even out. It would be more of a ‘luxury’ to have a new Mac Pro than anything else. The work still gets done, I just have to wait a few moments from time to time. Actually, Photoshop generally isn’t as bad as Firefox if you can believe that. A lot of delays in FF.

Thanks for your comments here Richard, very solid.

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By: Richard http://isource.com/2008/05/06/my-kingdom-for-a-pimped-out-mac-pro/#comment-29566 Tue, 06 May 2008 16:56:37 +0000 http://www.mactropolis.com/?p=468#comment-29566 You have not specified a use for the $800 RAID card and don’t have the drives included to take advantage of it. Speaking of the drives, you will not be backed up if you are using the second drive for backup AND storage. Where are you going to back up your storage. I would be more inclined to get the minimum drive that the vendor will ship the machine with and buy the drives I wanted from someone other than Apple. Ditto the RAM. I have not looked around recently, but some of the vendors used to have a package deal where they would put in a bunch of non-Apple RAM for a much better price.

An extra optical drive? Get one from Newegg for about $30.

A 23″ screen from Apple? I think not. It has not been refreshed in quite some time and there are some decent 28″ ones around for nearly the same price if you shop around. At least check out the 24″ alternatives. If you are doing serious PS work don’t even think about a 20″ iMac because of its screen.

I have lost track of an article that talked about which Mac Pro to get to either add a second processor in a bit as the prices come down or upgrade to the faster ones when those prices came down as they always do when the “newer, faster, better” ones come out. But that is probably not for the faint of heart.

OK, now the big question. Do you NEED the Mac Pro or do you just WANT IT?

If you are doing almost full time PS work with a lot of rendering of very large image files you can probably figure out the productivity gains and estimate how long it takes to pay for itself. If you simply want it, then the old racing adage applies. You want to go fast? How fast do you want to go? (Speed is measured in cubic dollars.)

On the other hand, if you are working with extremely large image files all the time you may even want to think about going to the dark side because (PS) CS 4 will be a 64 bit app for Windows and not for the Mac (if there even is a CS 4 for the Mac) and it is reported that there are enormous speed gains to be had with the 64 bit app. All of that is speculation at this point as it does not exist and so there has obviously been no independent testing…but, still….

If your answer falls somewhere in between the need vs. want category, perhaps something less than a fully tricked out Mac Pro would actually accomplish what you want done. You could use a KVM switch and be able to access either your MacBook Pro or the Mac Pro using the same monitor and so on which would save some $$$.

Oh, there is also the matter of the additional licenses for the software involved if you intend to install it on both machines.

Maybe what you have now is not such a bad deal after all, huh?

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By: Brett http://isource.com/2008/05/06/my-kingdom-for-a-pimped-out-mac-pro/#comment-29565 Tue, 06 May 2008 16:47:56 +0000 http://www.mactropolis.com/?p=468#comment-29565 Definitely buy RAM and extra hard disks from a 3rd party supplier. Use the money you save (from not buying them from Apple) and get the 8800 GT video card. Obviously, the RAID card is not much use in your initial configuration. In the white-box PC world, I would say “buy the RAID card when you intend to set up a RAID system”. However, Apple’s history tends to show that if you don’t buy an option BTO, you might never be able to buy it at all when you finally need it. Judging from your software load, you might also go for 8GB of RAM.

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By: Jacob http://isource.com/2008/05/06/my-kingdom-for-a-pimped-out-mac-pro/#comment-29564 Tue, 06 May 2008 16:32:32 +0000 http://www.mactropolis.com/?p=468#comment-29564 yh just get your memory from crucial they do mac specific memory and its really cheap i got another GB for my iMac for about £15 its way worth just installing it yourself

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By: Miigo http://isource.com/2008/05/06/my-kingdom-for-a-pimped-out-mac-pro/#comment-29563 Tue, 06 May 2008 15:46:01 +0000 http://www.mactropolis.com/?p=468#comment-29563 I wish I could afford one too.

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By: High Roller http://isource.com/2008/05/06/my-kingdom-for-a-pimped-out-mac-pro/#comment-29562 Tue, 06 May 2008 15:16:52 +0000 http://www.mactropolis.com/?p=468#comment-29562 Yeah, I’ve always bought from 3rd party vendors for RAM. No need to pony up to Apple as their prices always seem unreasonable. Not sure if they provide some sort of ‘magical’ memory for the price. I’m pretty sure they don’t 🙂 I’ll by ‘un-magical’ memory for half the price any day.

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By: Steve W http://isource.com/2008/05/06/my-kingdom-for-a-pimped-out-mac-pro/#comment-29561 Tue, 06 May 2008 15:00:12 +0000 http://www.mactropolis.com/?p=468#comment-29561 My favorite chip merchant will sells 2GB modules: 8 GB of Mac Pro memory for $360.00 or a maximum of 16 GB for $720.00.

Some new guys sell 4GB modules: 16GB for $1250.00 or 32GB for $2500.00. I have never purchased from these eggheads.

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By: Mr. Mayor http://isource.com/2008/05/06/my-kingdom-for-a-pimped-out-mac-pro/#comment-29560 Tue, 06 May 2008 14:46:59 +0000 http://www.mactropolis.com/?p=468#comment-29560 Yeah, with the latest iMac upgrade the largest size is 24″ I believe. Apple did away with the smaller 17″ versions and went to 20″ and 24″ models.

Hugo, yeah, the 17″ MBP is stock at $2,799… with a few upgrades I’m sure I could get it in the high $3k range… but still not as expensive as my mid-range Mac Pro.

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By: moburkhardt http://isource.com/2008/05/06/my-kingdom-for-a-pimped-out-mac-pro/#comment-29559 Tue, 06 May 2008 10:07:56 +0000 http://www.mactropolis.com/?p=468#comment-29559 since when is the iMac 32″ ???

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By: Hugo http://isource.com/2008/05/06/my-kingdom-for-a-pimped-out-mac-pro/#comment-29558 Tue, 06 May 2008 09:15:19 +0000 http://www.mactropolis.com/?p=468#comment-29558 That’s…a bit more than the 17″ MBP I believe?

If you don’t want to spend that much, don’t forget that the iMac’s always there. I’ve done what you do on your MBP with my -white- Macbook, with no problems at all.

Unless you really need loads of storage (and you can always use external hard drives), the Mac Pro probably isn’t worth it.

Plus, the iMac is 32″, while the biggest cinema display is 30″ I think. 2″ more – many more lines of text.

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