Comments on: Apple announces iOS 7 http://isource.com/2013/06/10/apple-announces-ios-7/ #1 Source for iPad, iPhone, iPod, Mac and AppleTV Thu, 02 Oct 2014 23:41:06 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.4.6 By: Renkman http://isource.com/2013/06/10/apple-announces-ios-7/#comment-57503 Fri, 14 Jun 2013 01:21:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=63320#comment-57503 In reply to MK2.

So innovative that they were copied by Samsung because they can’t come up with anything on their own–ZOMG back at ya

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By: MK2 http://isource.com/2013/06/10/apple-announces-ios-7/#comment-57417 Wed, 12 Jun 2013 13:21:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=63320#comment-57417 In reply to Renkman.

Yeah, because those patents are so innovative. Rounded corners, oooooh. Slide to unlock, ZOMG!!

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By: Renkman http://isource.com/2013/06/10/apple-announces-ios-7/#comment-57382 Wed, 12 Jun 2013 02:35:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=63320#comment-57382 In reply to MK2.

Apple has an obligation to their shareholders to defend patents, or else the patents are not worth the paper they’re written on. So if Samsung or anyone else who does not have a licensing agreement with Apple steals their stuff–then yes, they should, and will sue them

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By: MK2 http://isource.com/2013/06/10/apple-announces-ios-7/#comment-57334 Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:16:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=63320#comment-57334 In reply to James Rogers.

James, lets not get into whether or not Apple’s patents are valid in the first place, that’s a rather long and intricate discussion on it’s own. Lets also not discuss that farse of a trial in CA with appeals currently ongoing.

I do want to point out that Google is aggressively going after patent overhaul, and interestingly enough, Apple is on board. It is happening, but it’s slow, this is congress we’re talking about.

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By: James Rogers http://isource.com/2013/06/10/apple-announces-ios-7/#comment-57333 Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:12:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=63320#comment-57333 In reply to MK2.

1. I’m not personally in favor of all the suing, but Apple can do what they want. They have a lot of money, and they are working within the current legal structure.

2. If Google, Samsung, Blackberry, or the artist formerly known as Palm wants to protect their stuff, they are free to file for a patent. If they don’t, then they have no expectation that their ideas won’t be borrowed.

3. It’s one thing to direct copy. It’s another to take something, and re-work it. Google did this with homescreen folders in Jellybean. They outright copied the entire drop an app on an app metaphor from Apple, but they put their own unique spin on it. Same with Swipe to Unlock. They took the idea and changed it up. I see absolutely nothing wrong with that. While I haven’t installed the iOS 7 beta yet, it’s pretty clear that Apple borrowed elements from not just Android 4.0+, but also iOS Jailbreak tools, WP and webOS, and then put a different spin on it all.

Samsung, on the other hand, directly copied several UI elements from iOS in early versions of TouchWiz. This is not news. Sure, they don’t anymore, but I wasn’t surprised or bothered that they lost that judgement last year. It wasn’t like they got put out of business. It barely put a dent in their profits.

Would Apple sue someone else over this? Possibly. But, they would have filed a patent on whatever they created first. Google is within their rights to do so, as well, but they choose not to. Also, considering that Google has 10 times the current government lobbying budget of Apple, if they made software patent reform a real priority and pushed for patent system overhaul, they could probably make it happen. It’s curious to me that they haven’t yet. They seem much more worried about other things, like flip flopping on net neutrality, running fiber through cities without getting sued over it, or making plans for their own island kingdom somewhere in the Pacific.

In the end, the question needs to be asked: How much has any of this REALLY hurt them? Evidently, not that much. If not, then what’s the big deal? Why the Android Army moral crusade?

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By: MK2 http://isource.com/2013/06/10/apple-announces-ios-7/#comment-57329 Tue, 11 Jun 2013 14:29:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=63320#comment-57329 In reply to James Rogers.

No, it’s an Android rip off. But Apple has been hesitant to go directly after Google, so they sue their biggest partner instead.

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By: James Rogers http://isource.com/2013/06/10/apple-announces-ios-7/#comment-57328 Tue, 11 Jun 2013 14:27:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=63320#comment-57328 In reply to MK2.

I have a Galaxy Note 8, and I don’t see much TouchWiz in iOS 7. A lighter spin on Holo, but not as flat. Still, this is sure as hell no Sammy rip off.

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By: MK2 http://isource.com/2013/06/10/apple-announces-ios-7/#comment-57326 Tue, 11 Jun 2013 14:21:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=63320#comment-57326 In reply to Renkman.

Do you think Apple will stop trying to sue Samsung now? I don’t either.

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By: Renkman http://isource.com/2013/06/10/apple-announces-ios-7/#comment-57270 Mon, 10 Jun 2013 23:31:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=63320#comment-57270 In reply to NightAngel79.

There is definitely some “sharing” among mobile OS’s, but I agree with James–this has aspects of Web OS all over it

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By: James Rogers http://isource.com/2013/06/10/apple-announces-ios-7/#comment-57260 Mon, 10 Jun 2013 21:03:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=63320#comment-57260 In reply to Kevin Krause.

To me, it looks like they stole more from webOS than Android. The card metaphor for multitasking, especially. Also, Apple did go a different direction with the overall color scheme and pallete, which is very light in tone and bright, at least by default. Holo tends to have darker backgrounds by default if memory serves.

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By: NightAngel79 http://isource.com/2013/06/10/apple-announces-ios-7/#comment-57256 Mon, 10 Jun 2013 20:06:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=63320#comment-57256 In reply to Renkman.

They both stole them from Win Mobile!! LOL (jk)

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By: Renkman http://isource.com/2013/06/10/apple-announces-ios-7/#comment-57254 Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:59:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=63320#comment-57254 In reply to Kevin Krause.

plenty of iOS elements in Android as well–especially in the earlier versions.

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By: MK2 http://isource.com/2013/06/10/apple-announces-ios-7/#comment-57250 Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:47:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=63320#comment-57250 In reply to rageboardr.

They’ve gotta save something for OS7.1

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By: chuckles87 http://isource.com/2013/06/10/apple-announces-ios-7/#comment-57249 Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:37:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=63320#comment-57249 So they changed the theme very innovative

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By: rageboardr http://isource.com/2013/06/10/apple-announces-ios-7/#comment-57248 Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:30:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=63320#comment-57248 Widgets?

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By: Kevin Krause http://isource.com/2013/06/10/apple-announces-ios-7/#comment-57246 Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:26:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=63320#comment-57246 In reply to MK2.

I won’t deny that there are some distinctly Android-esque elements to the new design…

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By: MK2 http://isource.com/2013/06/10/apple-announces-ios-7/#comment-57244 Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:12:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=63320#comment-57244 Hmmm, looks very “Holo” to me. Now where have I heard that name before?

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