Comments on: Is Apple destined to repeat the misfortunes of the Jobs-less early 90s? http://isource.com/2013/08/13/larry-ellison-cbs-interview/ #1 Source for iPad, iPhone, iPod, Mac and AppleTV Sun, 18 Aug 2013 19:54:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.4.6 By: James Rogers http://isource.com/2013/08/13/larry-ellison-cbs-interview/#comment-60238 Sun, 18 Aug 2013 19:54:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=65012#comment-60238 In reply to jaiotu.

I agree that it takes vision for a company to be wildly successful, but that vision doesn’t have to come from the CEO. In fact, I would say that is rare among even tech companies. If you look at Google, for instance, many of their biggest products and innovations outside of search come from their many engineers, or from outside acquisitions.

One dramatic shift at Apple that Jobs spearheaded upon his return to the company was to elevate design to a position equivalent to marketing and engineering, which usually get to dictate how products are developed and built in most companies. Apple was the same in the 90s according to Jony Ive’s statements in the Issacson book and interviews after Jobs’ death. In promoting the value of great design, and making that a real priority in product development, Jobs made it easier for the best ideas to rise to the top, even if they come from lower level personnel. They are less likely to get lost in the beaurocratic shuffle. As long as Apple is still able to attract top level talent, they should be able to push forward into new product areas.

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By: jaiotu http://isource.com/2013/08/13/larry-ellison-cbs-interview/#comment-60222 Sun, 18 Aug 2013 11:11:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=65012#comment-60222 In many ways, Steve Jobs was a snake-oil salesman. Only Steve’s snake-oil actually did the things he promised. If Apple can continue making products that change the way people live, work and think about themselves while effectively communicating how amazing those products are Apple will have no problems. If they think just taking last years products and repackaging them in different form factors (think the new Mac Pro cylinder) they are missing their target consumers and just selling to their most hardcore fans.

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By: jaiotu http://isource.com/2013/08/13/larry-ellison-cbs-interview/#comment-60221 Sun, 18 Aug 2013 10:55:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=65012#comment-60221 In reply to James Rogers.

Steve Jobs was marginalized before he became focused on the Mac. Jobs took over the Macintosh project because it was a sneaky way to stay relevant in a company that no longer wanted him. He was allowed to take on the Macintosh so that he would be out of the picture for the development of the Lisa which is what Apple’s management thought was Apple’s future. The Macintosh prolonged Steve’s involvement with Apple.

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By: James Rogers http://isource.com/2013/08/13/larry-ellison-cbs-interview/#comment-60196 Sat, 17 Aug 2013 17:08:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=65012#comment-60196 In reply to Renkman.

Jobs went to great lengths to make sure the 90s weren’t repeated when he left. Their training program is second to none, and indoctrinates new employees with his principles for how Apple should be run. He hand-picked the majority of the current team, and put his stamp on everything the company does.

This was not the case when Jobs was forced out years ago. He got too focused on one area (Macs), and was marginalized. It was easy to push him out the door, because the company wasn’t set up in his image. Apple was a much more conventional company then. With the way it is set up now, and as much money as they have, I don’t see Apple falling off the map the way some like Ellison predict.

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By: phatmanXXL [15,500+ comments] http://isource.com/2013/08/13/larry-ellison-cbs-interview/#comment-60114 Thu, 15 Aug 2013 12:52:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=65012#comment-60114 Apple can just patent troll for the next 50 years.

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By: Renkman http://isource.com/2013/08/13/larry-ellison-cbs-interview/#comment-60084 Wed, 14 Aug 2013 01:06:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=65012#comment-60084 Different times. I really don’t see Apple repeating history

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