Comments on: What is Apple’s new M7 coprocessor and what does it do? http://isource.com/2013/09/17/apple-m7-explained/ #1 Source for iPad, iPhone, iPod, Mac and AppleTV Fri, 03 Oct 2014 01:51:11 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.4.6 By: TheScienceEnthusiast1130 http://isource.com/2013/09/17/apple-m7-explained/#comment-62260 Sat, 21 Sep 2013 06:23:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=65972#comment-62260 In reply to Xennex1170.

Agreed.

But “iPhone 5s” is the first mobile telephone with a “package on package” “system on a chip” with that can “compute” with 64 bits. There are general purpose registers that are 64 bits wide, hence this being referred to as “64-bit”.

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By: Xennex1170 http://isource.com/2013/09/17/apple-m7-explained/#comment-62247 Fri, 20 Sep 2013 22:35:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=65972#comment-62247 In reply to TheScienceEnthusiast1130.

I think this line in the wiki article you posted is simple and to the point. “Innovation differs from improvement in that innovation refers to the notion of doing something different rather than doing the same thing better.” 32-bit to 64-bit doesn’t seem to fit the ‘innovation’ moniker if you agree with that statement.

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By: Donovan Shore http://isource.com/2013/09/17/apple-m7-explained/#comment-62234 Fri, 20 Sep 2013 19:41:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=65972#comment-62234 In reply to TheScienceEnthusiast1130.

OMG man. What facts do you want and what facts have you provided. I told you “my opinion” which makes it a FACT that it is only an opinion that is mine. What have you provided to the conversation besides a wiki link that to a definition of a word that also would and can be used against the very argument that I fell you are getting at. Present your side of the story and lets go from there or go troll someone else.

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By: TheScienceEnthusiast1130 http://isource.com/2013/09/17/apple-m7-explained/#comment-62227 Fri, 20 Sep 2013 17:38:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=65972#comment-62227 In reply to Donovan Shore.

Why is it you cannot face the FACTS?

Please explain.

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By: Donovan Shore http://isource.com/2013/09/17/apple-m7-explained/#comment-62204 Fri, 20 Sep 2013 13:21:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=65972#comment-62204 In reply to TheScienceEnthusiast1130.

No, but basically. I explained my feelings up above. you came back with and insult. I asked you to explain your side, and then you told “OK, Go Ahead”

So yeah. Ignoring. Because it and you add no intellectual value to my day. Linking a wiki definition to a word yet not describing how you feel it fits into the argument is not value either.

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By: TheScienceEnthusiast1130 http://isource.com/2013/09/17/apple-m7-explained/#comment-62188 Fri, 20 Sep 2013 05:55:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=65972#comment-62188 In reply to Donovan Shore.

Ummm…did you ignore my comment?

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By: Xennex1170 http://isource.com/2013/09/17/apple-m7-explained/#comment-62181 Fri, 20 Sep 2013 03:19:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=65972#comment-62181 In reply to Azmon Rougier.

Hmm.. I see that Global Task Scheduling is what you are referring to. I can see how the big.LITTLE is more flexible in terms of the types of tasks both cores can perform. After think on this a bit more I think it’s still cool that they have a dedicated processor for only motion sensing tasks but I now realize it is not really an innovation since I now remember my C64 way back in early 80’s having the SID chip which was dedicated to sound processing. The C128 now seems more impressive for the time considering that it actually had 3 separate CPUs each dedicated for CP/M, C64 mode and C128 mode all sharing the same memory.

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By: Azmon Rougier http://isource.com/2013/09/17/apple-m7-explained/#comment-62179 Fri, 20 Sep 2013 02:51:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=65972#comment-62179 In reply to Xennex1170.

well that’s what assuming gets me right?

it is done simultaneously as lower level tasks get funneled to the less power hungry core while higher level tasks are concurrently running…

a good example of this would be motorola’s X8 chip which enables their active notifications and “always on” voice commands…

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By: Donovan Shore http://isource.com/2013/09/17/apple-m7-explained/#comment-62168 Fri, 20 Sep 2013 01:01:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=65972#comment-62168 In reply to TheScienceEnthusiast1130.

You are unbelievable.

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By: Xennex1170 http://isource.com/2013/09/17/apple-m7-explained/#comment-62165 Fri, 20 Sep 2013 00:09:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=65972#comment-62165 In reply to Azmon Rougier.

Being snarky wasn’t my intention.. Sorry you took it that way.. Just was surprised to hear that it was done before.

After perusing the wiki article you linked to it doesn’t seem to pertain to offloading a particular type of calculation (sensor) to a dedicated chip.. The big.LITTLE seems to be a way for processes to be completely switched to the larger more power hungry core when the workload becomes too heavy for the smaller one. I get the impression that both are not used simultaneously.

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By: TheScienceEnthusiast1130 http://isource.com/2013/09/17/apple-m7-explained/#comment-62155 Thu, 19 Sep 2013 20:30:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=65972#comment-62155 In reply to Donovan Shore.

Ok, you go ahead.

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By: Azmon Rougier http://isource.com/2013/09/17/apple-m7-explained/#comment-62152 Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:47:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=65972#comment-62152 In reply to TheScienceEnthusiast1130.

the concept of “big.LITTLE” computing is hardly new and FAR from innovative in 2013…

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By: Donovan Shore http://isource.com/2013/09/17/apple-m7-explained/#comment-62151 Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:40:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=65972#comment-62151 In reply to TheScienceEnthusiast1130.

Really, go ahead. Explain bud. A one line insult is not an argument.

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By: TheScienceEnthusiast1130 http://isource.com/2013/09/17/apple-m7-explained/#comment-62147 Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:05:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=65972#comment-62147 In reply to Azmon Rougier.

Could you explain?

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By: TheScienceEnthusiast1130 http://isource.com/2013/09/17/apple-m7-explained/#comment-62146 Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:04:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=65972#comment-62146 In reply to Donovan Shore.

LOL
Ignorance at its finest.

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By: Xennex1170 http://isource.com/2013/09/17/apple-m7-explained/#comment-62069 Wed, 18 Sep 2013 22:39:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=65972#comment-62069 In reply to Azmon Rougier.

I was not aware of that. Good to know.. What did they call their dedicated motion co-processor?

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By: Azmon Rougier http://isource.com/2013/09/17/apple-m7-explained/#comment-62053 Wed, 18 Sep 2013 19:57:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=65972#comment-62053 In reply to Xennex1170.

both motorola and samsung have previously done this…

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By: Donovan Shore http://isource.com/2013/09/17/apple-m7-explained/#comment-62005 Wed, 18 Sep 2013 07:13:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=65972#comment-62005 In reply to Xennex1170.

I guess the world and I have a different definition of innovation.

Now I will be the first to admit I am primarily an Android fan, yet also I am glad and surprised by the decision to move to 64bit computing. I wouldn’t call it innovative, a huge step forward though.

But, as many Android fans know, today’s phones and OS’s are more like full blown PC OS’s. The theory and functionality behind it all is nearly identical at times. So we can pretty much predict anything that furthered the development of desktop computing will eventually make it’s way into a phone.

For this I not surprised that 64bit computing made it’s way to phones. And this is also why I can’t call it “innovative” I can however commend Apple for pulling the trigger and making that step.

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By: Xennex1170 http://isource.com/2013/09/17/apple-m7-explained/#comment-61994 Wed, 18 Sep 2013 01:16:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=65972#comment-61994 Ok, now THIS I can actually consider an innovation though seemingly an extrapolation of offloading certain types of computation to the GPU.. Well done..

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