Comments on: Why There Is No iPhone Killer. https://isource.com/2011/09/29/why-there-is-no-iphone-killer/ #1 Source for iPad, iPhone, iPod, Mac and AppleTV Sat, 07 Apr 2012 15:34:40 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.4.6 By: Review: Samsung Galaxy Note – Oversized iPhone Killer? | iSource https://isource.com/2011/09/29/why-there-is-no-iphone-killer/#comment-43646 Sat, 07 Apr 2012 15:34:40 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=43833#comment-43646 […] was hitting the market. If you’re a regular reader you may recall a couple of us decided to test the waters and see if the greener grass on the other side of the fence was real grass. As I came to find out […]

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By: Chance https://isource.com/2011/09/29/why-there-is-no-iphone-killer/#comment-42421 Fri, 30 Dec 2011 18:03:59 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=43833#comment-42421 I have an Android, and my wife has an iPhone, so I feel like I have somewhat of a unique perspective.

Here’s what I’ve noticed with the two, that I can try to sum up this way: If Android doesn’t have something you like, you can modify it or find another one. But iPhone makes sure you like it.

Let me explain with the keyboard. The iPhone keyboard is very good, and is far superior to the Android default. However, with my Android it comes with Samsung’s own version, plus numerous others from the Market, and I happen to use a third-party keyboard. Now, it’s nice because Android offers choice, but I like the iPhone because I actually don’t have to worry about it, they ensure their keyboard is awesome, with easy typing and a nice, clean interface. At the same time though, it’s hard to make everyone happy.

I think I’ll stick with Android for a while, because I’m happy with it and used to it. If I ever get a tablet though, I’ll get an iPad, and I would love to get a Mac sometime.

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By: Here’s What Windows Phone 7.5 Would Look Like on the iPhone | iSource https://isource.com/2011/09/29/why-there-is-no-iphone-killer/#comment-41692 Wed, 30 Nov 2011 19:47:49 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=43833#comment-41692 […] Posted on 30 Nov 2011 by ThomasWindows Phone 7.5 may not have been enough to convince Patrick or Brandon to keep their WP7 devices, but there’s no denying the minimal beauty of its Metro UI. The […]

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By: Kuttyjoe https://isource.com/2011/09/29/why-there-is-no-iphone-killer/#comment-40649 Mon, 17 Oct 2011 04:52:22 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=43833#comment-40649 Definitely, to each his own. For some, the most important thing may be access to all the apps. For me, Android has enough apps. I hadn’t realized there was a problem with searching for apps. I always find exactly what I’m looking for. The best part of Android for me is having the ability to customize it. While iphone users are dying for the next iphone, I’m much more interested in just making the phone I have more interesting and more usable. The phone is not even an Android phone, it’s an HD2 with a heavily customized Android rom. The rom has it’s own backup system which backs up to the SD card and restores everything except the two or 3 widgets I have (their settings are remembered but I have to place the widgets back on the screen), and I have to log into my email accounts manually. Otherwise, all apps and their settings and registrations, screen layout, and general system settings come back in automated fashion. Anyway, backup and restore is a matter of getting an app for back up and restore. Apple happens to have their own built in I suppose while Android doesn’t but that sort of thing is available. The beauty of Android is it’s ability to be customized and made very personal. I can adjust the tiniest details including stuff like the strength of the vibration on a custom keyboard when I press a key, or the amount of time to hold a key before the little alternate character pops up. Makes for a faster typing experience. Makes for a better phone experience. The guy who wrote this article saw this great commitment to customization as a negative. For me, it’s the best part of Android.

WP7 is very much like iphone to me. I ran it for awhile on my HD2. It’s super smooth and I like everything except the the homescreen and the extreme lack of settings, just like iphone. I think people are voting on this thing by staying very clear of it. I may use it as a way to help ween me off my phone addiction. That or buy a regular feature phone. LOL

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By: Tony https://isource.com/2011/09/29/why-there-is-no-iphone-killer/#comment-40368 Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:23:14 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=43833#comment-40368 I’m a WP7 Owner and I think there are many great app on the market place. is 30,000 and growing not enough especially when 80% of the most popular app are in the marketplace. There is less sifting through the crap for sure on WP7. My app list is 4th & Mayor, AccuWeather, Adobe, All Recipies, Amazon Kindle, Automobile Magazine, Bible 7+, Big Oven, Canoe, Car Addict, CNN Newsreader, Collage, Compass, Converter, Craigslist, Currency tile, Ebay, ESPN, Facebook, Find my Bru, Flixster, Foodspotting, Foursquare, Gmaps, Google Search, Groupon, Handy Scan, IGN, IMDb, ING Direct, Kayak, Kik Messenger, MoTewwts Pro, Turn by Turn Navigation, Netflix, MS Office, Open Table, Outdoor Navigator, Podcast Pro, Prime TV, Radio Hub, Realtor.ca, ScoreMobile, Photo Crop, Photo Enhancer, Picture Frames, Pocket Recorder, Shopping List, Slacker Radio, Smart Tile, Sound Enhancer, Sports Scores, Stock alert, Supertube, Tech news now, Techrack, Text my location, Toronto Bus, Traffic Cameras, Twitter, the Weather network, WhatsApp, World Clock, WP Shortcut Tiles, Yellow pages, yelp, youtube, Ztitch.

As for Ecosystems, who has a bigger ecosystem them Microsoft. Bing, Xbox, MSN Messenger, Windows Live, Office, Zune, Outlook, Skydirve….. And the list goes on. Microsoft is bringing it all together and things are looking good.

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By: WP7 https://isource.com/2011/09/29/why-there-is-no-iphone-killer/#comment-39945 Thu, 06 Oct 2011 21:18:01 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=43833#comment-39945 In reply to grover.

@grover

If you are comparing Apple smoothness and WP7 smoothness, then I really don’t know what you’re on about because both systems are silky smooth. Android is the one that is not so smooth.

You mentioned iTunes for backup. WP7 has seemless cloud integration so I can sync all my data across devices, backup my contacts online and access my app purchase history online. I tested how all this works recently by resetting my phone completely just to see how good the WP7 cloud backup is. Guess what, it worked flawlessly – I provided my Windows Live ID and it automatically downloaded all my contacts again, all my data was available to restore, and all my apps could be reinstalled from the browswer wirelessly without even having to touch my phone. So I have no idea what the people you mentioned were doing, but clearly they either didn’t have WP7 Mango or they didn’t use the Windows Live cloud.

In terms of removing the apps, I’m talking about removal of 3rd party apps for comparison purposes (as originally stated in my earlier post), because that is what makes iPhone so good. But that doesn’t make other platforms inferior if they have that functionality natively integrated. If you look at what’s happening, iOS is slowly starting to integrate more stuff natively, meaning less requirement for 3rd party apps. This is exactly the same route that WP7 took from the beginning. Apple can clearly see the benefits of this.

Yeah, the camera on WP7 phones is nice! 🙂 And having a dedicated two-position camera button is very useful. Press half way to lock focus and light metering, then press fully to take the picture. It’s exactly how real cameras work and is nice to have for certain situations.

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By: grover https://isource.com/2011/09/29/why-there-is-no-iphone-killer/#comment-39935 Thu, 06 Oct 2011 17:24:38 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=43833#comment-39935 @WP7

okay, so, let’s take out all the apps from all developers on all platforms…….what do we have? a phone! I will take Apples smoothness and the great backup for it in itunes over anything else that android or WP7 have….which is CARP! lol and yes, I know, I missplelled it on purpose. But, I know of people having issues on both phones when they have needed a new phone or upgraded…..lol lost contacts, pics, notes, etc…..

so, if you want to take out the apps, take them out of all, and still IOS/iPhone come out on top….well, except my crappy camera, and I will give that to you….lmao

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By: Clint https://isource.com/2011/09/29/why-there-is-no-iphone-killer/#comment-39887 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 20:09:01 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=43833#comment-39887 I just read through the comments and saw that you specifically said you’re NOT talking about jailbreaking, just out of the box iOS. Sorry. 🙂

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By: Clint https://isource.com/2011/09/29/why-there-is-no-iphone-killer/#comment-39886 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 20:06:22 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=43833#comment-39886 Very well written article. But have you considered that a lot of the small things you find wrong with iOS can be solved with jailbreaking? There are live icons in Cydia, as well as a plethora of other tweaks that greatly increase the productivity of the phone.

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By: Laurel https://isource.com/2011/09/29/why-there-is-no-iphone-killer/#comment-39881 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 16:36:04 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=43833#comment-39881 Thanks so much for this excellent article. Exactly what I needed!

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By: WP7 https://isource.com/2011/09/29/why-there-is-no-iphone-killer/#comment-39755 Mon, 03 Oct 2011 21:45:27 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=43833#comment-39755 @Brandon,

Another nice app which I just found is called Weave. I’m using the free version. There appears to be a paid version too which is available as a free trial, but I haven’t looked at that.

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By: Eric https://isource.com/2011/09/29/why-there-is-no-iphone-killer/#comment-39724 Sun, 02 Oct 2011 22:56:48 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=43833#comment-39724 And what’s wrong with feeling like Linux? It’s my operating of system of choice for desktop and netbook alike.

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By: WP7 https://isource.com/2011/09/29/why-there-is-no-iphone-killer/#comment-39662 Fri, 30 Sep 2011 18:46:38 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=43833#comment-39662 @Brandon,

One thing I do agree with you is that for an established iPhone user with access to the vast array of apps, the iPhone is great. No doubt about it. WP7 with it’s much smaller app marketplace probably does not make any logical sense to a long-time iPhone user. That’s because it’s the apps in the Apple ecosystem that make the iPhone what it is. If you take away all the 3rd party apps from an iPhone, how would it compare to it’s competitors?

This is in contrast to what WP7 was intended to be, which is maximum functionality out of the box, with a focus on people, natively integrated for a smooth quality experience. That is something it does very well, so much so that many users (myself included) simply don’t need many extra 3rd party apps.

Will WP7 Mango kill the iPhone? No I don’t think so, and I don’t want it to either because competition is required to drive innovation. However, will WP7 Mango gain marketshare? Yes I think it will, though probaly not from iPhone marketshare. WP7 is fundamentally a very good product and there is a large existing ecosystem to support it (not just the apps) so there is no reason why it can’t flourish. I personally think WP7 is more likely to gain most of its marketshare from new customers, Blackberry users, and some Android users. But who really knows!

One thing is for sure, there are very interesting times ahead in the mobile world!

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By: Brandon https://isource.com/2011/09/29/why-there-is-no-iphone-killer/#comment-39661 Fri, 30 Sep 2011 17:59:14 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=43833#comment-39661 @WP7 — Thanks I’ll definitely take a look at those. I haven’t decided how limited my time on the platform is yet. I may keep the HD7S around for a rainy day. It all depends on my budget when iPhone time rolls around 🙂

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By: WP7 https://isource.com/2011/09/29/why-there-is-no-iphone-killer/#comment-39658 Fri, 30 Sep 2011 17:11:08 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=43833#comment-39658 @Brandon,

With Facebook, I don’t use their app because the native functionality built into WP7 Mango is more than enough for my Facebook needs, such as tagging pictures and uploading them, chatting etc. I don’t Twitter, therefore it’s a feature which not important to me.

Weather Apps – I have a Samsung Omnia 7 and I only use their own app, which works great. However, I work from home so if I need to know what the weather is I can just look out of the window!!

Also, I’m in the UK so the UK specific apps that I do use would be of no use to you. London Travel is a great app which I use, especially since I don’t live in London and it’s ideal when travelling around the city on public transport, which can be daunting. I use Outdoor Navigation for my walking activities. So as you can see, I use very few apps. Therefore the fact that the app marketplace in WP7 is behind makes no difference to me because most of the things I need are built into the WP7 system.

In terms of known quality apps, try something like Cocktail flow. Tasks by Telerik looks nice, but I haven’t really had the need to use it.

One thing I would recommend is an app called Touch Develop from Microsoft – this is a very cool app which allows you to make your own apps! If you know a bit about coding or scripting, you might be quite impressed by this. It will be updated soon to support all the Mango features, but worth taking a look anyway because it is pretty cool.

If I’m honest, you’ll probably miss out on many of the new Mango specific apps if you have limited time on the platform, because many of the iOS and Android apps would not have been possible prior to Mango due to the restricted API in the original WP7.

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By: Brandon https://isource.com/2011/09/29/why-there-is-no-iphone-killer/#comment-39654 Fri, 30 Sep 2011 15:28:24 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=43833#comment-39654 @WP7 — Please tell me … what are the quality apps in the WP7 marketplace that I’m obviously missing? I have almost 300 iOS apps in iTunes right now – not that I use them all but I can’t seem to find anything worth really using for WP7.

My current list is sad:
Twitter – slow to load and slow to scroll
Facebook – It’s almost like they didn’t even try to make this app useable.
Weather / Weather Channel App – Live tiles FTW.
WP Shortcut Tiles and few HTC add-ons.

Other than those it’s very slim pickings when it comes to apps so far, so really I’d love to hear what I can’t miss out on while I’m still on the platform.

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By: Edgar https://isource.com/2011/09/29/why-there-is-no-iphone-killer/#comment-39651 Fri, 30 Sep 2011 15:04:19 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=43833#comment-39651 this is a great article.. ios and wp7.5 are the smoothest ever..

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By: WP7 https://isource.com/2011/09/29/why-there-is-no-iphone-killer/#comment-39650 Fri, 30 Sep 2011 14:53:37 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=43833#comment-39650 As a WP7 user, I actually agree with this article for the most part.

However, from my own personal perspective, if the quailty apps that you need are available in all of the ecosystems, then for those users the statement “there won’t be an iPhone killer” does not necessarily apply. Therefore, assuming that is the case, it’s the phone system itself that becomes the important factor which is down to personal preference, and why I personally prefer WP7 Mango over the other two.

Plus, I have an Xbox, so WP7 makes more sense.

Bottom line is though, at least there are now three decent phone systems available to choose from (WP7, Android, iOS), and that is most certainly a good thing for consumers.

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By: Dorothylisa https://isource.com/2011/09/29/why-there-is-no-iphone-killer/#comment-39647 Fri, 30 Sep 2011 11:00:57 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=43833#comment-39647 hmmm hope so!i have a free app called Apple life, it is a real puzzle game and mind refreshing game. one should enjoy it…! check it out

Appstore Download link: http://itunes.apple.com/in/app/apple-life/id463407836?mt=8

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By: Kevin https://isource.com/2011/09/29/why-there-is-no-iphone-killer/#comment-39643 Fri, 30 Sep 2011 09:55:20 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=43833#comment-39643 *Applause* Well done! I have had a similar opinion for sometime now. Great article.

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By: Re:Jacoch https://isource.com/2011/09/29/why-there-is-no-iphone-killer/#comment-39642 Fri, 30 Sep 2011 07:58:39 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=43833#comment-39642 This post is about the handsets itself not about rooting them or jailbreaking them that is another subject wich once agian the iOS handset would win aswell ! Hands down you can compare every aspect of wp7 and android to iOS and they still have alot of catching up to get a bite out the apple ! They took the first bite for you to have a platform to work with and still have yet to get near the core or apple genius!

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By: jacoch https://isource.com/2011/09/29/why-there-is-no-iphone-killer/#comment-39640 Fri, 30 Sep 2011 06:54:09 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=43833#comment-39640 And in your review, you didn’t try to change your device. I’ve tried with my Android. Don’t hope that you can just restore your device as it was. If you rooted the device and bought backup software, you can limit what you have to restore. But you can’t find your device as it was before the change.

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By: Chill https://isource.com/2011/09/29/why-there-is-no-iphone-killer/#comment-39638 Fri, 30 Sep 2011 05:40:25 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=43833#comment-39638 Nuff said…

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By: Drew https://isource.com/2011/09/29/why-there-is-no-iphone-killer/#comment-39637 Fri, 30 Sep 2011 05:16:23 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=43833#comment-39637 I agree with pretty much everything you said here. The app store from Apple is the handsdown best out there. I’m looking to go the way of Android after using an iPod Touch since it first came out in 07 and looking at Androids Marketplace makes me very sad. I was did something similar that you did – I searched for a weather app and for some reason a game came up in the search results – and it had nothing to do with weather!

The iPhone 4 is still the best design I’ve seen in a while and I certainly hope the new one is as good. If it wasn’t for the Xperia Play with it’s amazing gamepad, I would probably get a Windows Phone. Even though it’s lacking, I much prefer their interface. Apple’s UI is too much of the sameness from ’07.

The good thing I do realize about Android is the high level of customization and some of the things lacking can be made up through rooting and launchers, though for the average user, that’s normally not an option.

Good article!

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By: Luke https://isource.com/2011/09/29/why-there-is-no-iphone-killer/#comment-39636 Fri, 30 Sep 2011 05:04:38 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=43833#comment-39636 Absolutely love this man. Wholeheartedly agree. This is very well written and I feel the same way, Apple takes time for everything, their attention to detail is remarkable and it makes all of their products worthwhile. That combined with an unbeatable ecosystem, they’re holding all the cards. Competitors simply do not have the right vision, nor do they even take time to actually develop outstanding products.

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