Comments on: A Samsung vs Apple Argument https://isource.com/2011/12/22/a-samsung-vs-apple-argument/ #1 Source for iPad, iPhone, iPod, Mac and AppleTV Thu, 24 Jan 2013 22:32:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.4.6 By: john https://isource.com/2011/12/22/a-samsung-vs-apple-argument/#comment-52118 Thu, 24 Jan 2013 22:32:00 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=47585#comment-52118 Your iPhone has Samsung parts.Not the other way around.The next Iphone or ipad will be worse with out Samsung in my opinion.

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By: jfutral https://isource.com/2011/12/22/a-samsung-vs-apple-argument/#comment-42366 Mon, 26 Dec 2011 17:56:21 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=47585#comment-42366 Also, according to MS at CES two years ago, the Slate was “invented” (if that is even correct) by Microsoft and HP trying to beat Apple to the punch. That product never was released or was killed shortly after.

Shortbread cookies are my favourite to eat. Chocolate chip is my favourite to make.

Joe

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By: Jordan https://isource.com/2011/12/22/a-samsung-vs-apple-argument/#comment-42312 Sat, 24 Dec 2011 05:48:40 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=47585#comment-42312 I would say I’m pretty unbiased on brand in general. I tend to buy what I like the most at the time. 2 years ago I bought an iphone and a few months later I bought an imac. I did this because the iphone was a lot better than the other phones out at the time, and vista was terrible.

Now, I almost exclusively use windows 7 on my imac because I like it more and I just sold my iphone 4 and got a Samsung s2 skyrocket because I like it more.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with Apple, dont get me wrong. I would also say they are more innovative than other companies. However, this doesn’t mean I owe them! I feel like a lot of people buy Apple now because they’ve literally created the smartphone and tablet markets. This would be like someone only buying Ford because they made the first car.

If Samsung makes a better phone, even if it is an improved copy, I’m going to buy that. I like the bigger screen (4.5 inch, and yet it weighs less than a 4s), I like the fact I can do anything with android (widgets, live wallpapers, themes, custom launchers, Flash) and I’m not being told how to use my device. All in all, I made the leap away from the iphone 3g and iphone 4 that I had over the last 3 years to the skyrocket (w/ 4g LTE) and I like the skyrocket more. I guess I’m not original, but it’s still really cool.

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By: WinTard https://isource.com/2011/12/22/a-samsung-vs-apple-argument/#comment-42310 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 20:56:38 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=47585#comment-42310 It’s a great article which I appreciated except for the pictures of before / after. I must take exception.

Please consider Apple’s claims regarding the “slavishly copied” are only claims, not proven in reality, nor in any court of law.

As a matter of fact, time will tell soon enough who is copying, and who is lying? This will be proved beyond a doubt in various legal courts across the world.

Please not the absence of brand or affiliation thus bias in the above statement.

Now for my exception to your otherwise fine article:

1.Please google samsung photoframe 2006 and view images.

Now if you could rationally explain how come the Samsung Photoframe tablet released in 2006 looks identical to the iPad2?

2.Please google LG Prada and view the wiki.

You will note the LG Prada was the first multitouch capacitive smartphone released before the original iPhone and won numerous design awards.

Looking at the dates and prior art aspects, it would appear to me that Apple is copying others, tweaks it slightly, then claims it as their own original invention. Furthermore then Apple becomes a patent-troll patenting trivial designs with prior art existing and sues everybody. That to me is what I consider stealing and punching below the belt.

Alas Steve’s RDF is rapidly fading away, in direct correlation with his departure.

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We have always been shameless about stealing great ideas.
~ Steve Jobs

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By: Dennis https://isource.com/2011/12/22/a-samsung-vs-apple-argument/#comment-42296 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 16:42:52 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=47585#comment-42296 I have the IPhone 4 and think highly of it. My opinion is based what it does to benefit me in my daily life. Sales numbers mean nothing to me. I really dont care who invented what or when. So far the IPhone has been good for me. That said, I’ve recently pondered switching to the SII or the HTC Vivid. I like the ability to add storage with a 32gb microSD card as well as some of the “widgets” you can add to the home screen for ease. Most of all I like the bigger screen. It’s just easier to see things fast and manipulate with bigger fingers. Every time Apple comes out with a few changes there’s this brass band affair and I think for the most part, unwarranted. When the 5 comes out it had better be a step up of some proportion or I just may be switching.

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By: brady https://isource.com/2011/12/22/a-samsung-vs-apple-argument/#comment-42289 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 09:33:08 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=47585#comment-42289 There is no one best phone. I’m an android user (use to be an iphone 4 owner) but it just wasn’t cutting it for me, the size of the screen was just too small for my slightly larger than normal hands. It was a pain to type on. I feel more at home with a 4.3inch screen now. The fact of the matter though is people have different taste and different requirements. For one person they may require the best camera in a phone possible, for another, the ability to do something specific.

Then there’s the aspect that most measurements are purely opinions. The only thing left after opinions really is specs, which the iphone does not win majority of the time. But I would still argue that the iphone is a great phone, but it depends on what you want.

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By: brian https://isource.com/2011/12/22/a-samsung-vs-apple-argument/#comment-42287 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 09:06:07 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=47585#comment-42287 In reply to NickT.

You can also hit the 2nd button (move) then touch Trash.

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By: jfutral https://isource.com/2011/12/22/a-samsung-vs-apple-argument/#comment-42285 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 07:19:01 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=47585#comment-42285 In reply to Peter.

Some ambiguous article about some ambiguous company (which, BTW, says the iPhone 4s is outselling the Samsung on the Christmas rush) using some ambiguous metrics for one country. Which month? The iPhone 4s (which is the model the article references) was only released Oct 14.

But whatever. Torture the numbers long enough, they’ll confess to anything. Apple’s iPhone is still the single best selling smartphone across the board, bar none. You might find some country for some short period of time (usually just before the next iPhone model is about to be released as people hold off buying), but that is usually a short lived victory. When the final count is in, iPhone wins. For now.

But whatever. As you say, it really has no bearing on what device a consumer should use. I prefer iPhone to any Samsung. I actually prefer Windows Mobile to any Android device. I don’t know who said anything about number of sales meaning something is better. Nor did anyone bring up revenue. Nice little straw men to fight. I’m sure you won. If it helps you, I’ll even say you win.

Joe

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By: Pretty much pointless https://isource.com/2011/12/22/a-samsung-vs-apple-argument/#comment-42284 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 07:15:59 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=47585#comment-42284 Let them love what they like. So what if you managed to convince non apple user that apple is better, they can have 1001 reasons why they decided otherwise. As far as I am concern, I am a happy apple customer that have little to complain about. Time will tell who made a better choice.

Samsung is wasting my time to ponder over why they copy rather than innovate. I am learnt in the way of creation that surpass replication. I am learnt in that I need to be truthful to myself. That is good enough for me to create the world I want it to be.

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By: NickT https://isource.com/2011/12/22/a-samsung-vs-apple-argument/#comment-42281 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 05:19:05 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=47585#comment-42281 I’d have given up the argument after she said you can delete messages on gmail unlike the iPhone. You CAN delete messages from gmail. It’s an option in mail account preferences if you add a gmail account.. ‘archive messages: off’

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By: coco https://isource.com/2011/12/22/a-samsung-vs-apple-argument/#comment-42279 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 04:34:49 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=47585#comment-42279 one more thing – those pictures up there, did you get any of the phones that were marketed outside of the united states?? and the pix of the tablets…yes samsung did it before apple – so where are these claims of copying coming from? oh, the front camera….innovation????? it’s not innovation if the world and samsung has been doing it for 8 years!

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By: coco https://isource.com/2011/12/22/a-samsung-vs-apple-argument/#comment-42278 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 04:31:48 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=47585#comment-42278 if the iphone was a superior device it would have received the most pretigious award – the T3 International World’s Best Phone award but which phone did instead? Samsung Galaxy S2. Not to mention, in the UK, the Galaxy S2 swiped 5 out of the 10 categories of awards, and the most innovative phone award went to LG….iphone won NOTHING. zip. read people, i mean read OUTSIDE of iSource, maccult, apple insider. seriously, the WORLD knows this but NOT americans. it’s ignorant and ridiculous.

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By: mex https://isource.com/2011/12/22/a-samsung-vs-apple-argument/#comment-42275 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 03:12:11 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=47585#comment-42275 “The iPhone actually is the best seller in its category. No single Samsung device outsells the iPhone.”

If Apple instead of only one worn-out 4S , offered 3 models this year, no one of them could be best seller now!

And at least 2 Samsung’s devices would outsell every one of them.

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By: Damien https://isource.com/2011/12/22/a-samsung-vs-apple-argument/#comment-42274 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 02:16:09 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=47585#comment-42274 One major point, we must remember that samsung actually makes the ipad the iphone and mac hardware… So if u like apple or samsung you probably shouldnt put the other down.

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By: Peter https://isource.com/2011/12/22/a-samsung-vs-apple-argument/#comment-42272 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 00:23:10 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=47585#comment-42272

The iPhone actually is the best seller in its category. No single Samsung device outsells the iPhone.

First, no matter how often you repeat it, you’re wrong.

Second, if the number of sales means it’s better, does that mean that Windows is better than Mac OS X? After all, there are far more Windows PCs sold than Mac OS X PCs. Does McDonalds make the best hamburger? After all, they sell more hamburgers than anyone else in the world!

The problem with the revenue argument is–so what? Why do I care, as a consumer, how much money the company I bought the product from made from me? Is my Mercedes better than your BMW because Mercedes-Benz made more money from me than BMW did?

I bring up the revenue argument when I hear the “Apple is doooooomed!” arguments, sure. The fact that Apple makes good money selling iPhones, iPads, and Macs is a good thing for the company. But does that somehow make their products better?

By the way, if you want to compare designs, consider Samsung’s Picture Frame from 2006–four years before Apple released the iPad. Look familiar?

I have an iPhone 4S. I like it. It does lots of cool things. I’m a long-time Mac user–my first Mac was a Macintosh. It works very well. I’ve been an Apple developer for more than 20 years.

But if you prefer Android or Windows, that’s fine, too. Android devices have some advantages. For example, want to play a movie stored on your iPad on your TV? You need to buy a $35 cable or a $99 Apple TV. Most tablets–and some Android phones–have DVI output built-in.

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By: Shrey https://isource.com/2011/12/22/a-samsung-vs-apple-argument/#comment-42271 Thu, 22 Dec 2011 23:38:48 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=47585#comment-42271 well..starting off with this argument, i really hate samsung products and love apple products..i don’t have any personal differences with samsung though.its a great company, growing very fast, the main reason for that they have targeted mass market.
apple on the other hand is an up-market company, which does not deal in mass-market instead people run for their simplicity..
anything that apple does is great, because they have a great research team, and great means just great for them..
samsung on the other hand is a quick-learner, as a company..Earlier it had issues dealing with people’s choice, but after following nokia’s footsteps in phone market and apple’s in tablet market, they are making a mark..
I really don’t like android as its more prone to attacks and it is slow, as compared to ios..
when i bought my first apple product 3 years ago, i didn’t know apple’ UI can be that interesting.
but folks, i love my macbook pro, its awesome has a great feel-good factor with it..
its everything one can dream of in a laptop.
its 3 years old, but still it is faster than a whole lot of laptops out there.
There is nothing like any anti-virus in it, it does not hang..
it is simple to use, has a great screen and i can also type easily when there is no light..
plus it has a great camera and graphics card for video chat and to run games..

what more u expect from a laptop..
thats why i fell in love with apple and their products, and there is a popular saying once an apple, always an apple…!

i am a proud apple fanboy now.
i dont hate android for this reason though.
being very frank, i loved the new windows 7.5 mango, and i am not shy to admit that, because it is worth appreciation.
I might purchase a windows phone soon, as it is tough to afford an iphone, for me.
i may even buy a very fast android phone, which has a sure shot ICS update(i liked ICS).
its not about hating samsung, its that they really copy, and if you haven’t used any apple product in your life, you haven’t lived life yet !

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By: jfutral https://isource.com/2011/12/22/a-samsung-vs-apple-argument/#comment-42269 Thu, 22 Dec 2011 22:51:17 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=47585#comment-42269 Take heart. The iPhone actually is the best seller in its category. No single Samsung device outsells the iPhone. Samsung sells more smart phones than Apple (and this only the last reported quarter) because they sell more smart phone platforms, not just Android, but also Windows and Bada based smart phones. I seem to recall some esoteric OS, but I can’t remember the name. Probably not significant.

I also wouldn’t say Samsung has “invented” anything. They are pretty much a market follower as well. Even Samsung phones before iPhone were general copies of the Motorolas and Blackberries (probably a few Sony Ericsons, too. I liked my old one), the only companies making anything distinctive before the iPhone.

I wouldn’t worry about it. Such discussions are largely unproductive and a waste of time. The fact she needed to start off on the offense shows more about her own insecurities than yours. That really has nothing to do with whether Samsung is better than Apple or Apple is better than Samsung. You are better off without her as a part of your life. Sadly, you will never get that time back. next time just change the subject and ask them about their favourite cookie recipe, or whatever happens to be your favourite food to cook. You’ll both be better for it.

Joe

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By: Cookie Monster https://isource.com/2011/12/22/a-samsung-vs-apple-argument/#comment-42265 Thu, 22 Dec 2011 22:16:51 +0000 http://isource.com/?p=47585#comment-42265 For example, I know Samsung has sold more smartphones than Apple with the iPhone, but it must be taken in consideration that there are a greater number pf Android debices than there are with iOS installed. So the sales argument should be more valid for you, and the iPad vs Galaxy Tab sales are a good example of people’s preference, but it doesn’t mean superiority of any of these devices.

Android is for people who doesn’t want or hate Apple, or for people that can’t afford an Apple device. As simple as that. Apple is still better for now, but Android is a great substitute and it is getting power and increasing its reach. Personally, I prefer Apple, although I can say Android is great too.

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